'Meadows clearly has very significant information': Liz Cheney on whether ex-chief of staff will be charged



Former US Representative Liz Cheney (R-Wyoming) continued her efforts to fight against another Donald Trump presidency Tuesday during a conversation with MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace.

In discussing her book, Oath and Honor: A Memoir and a Warning, Wallace asked the ex-GOP lawmaker about her thoughts on where former chief of staff and Trump co-defendant Mark Meadows — who she talks about in the book — stands right now in the former president's January 6 criminal case.

"What do you think Mark Meadows' status is right now?" the MSNBC host asked. "Do you think he is a cooperator? Do you think he will be charged?"

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Cheney replied, "I think that, you know, we were surprised that the Department of Justice chose not to indict him after the House had held him in contempt. And at the time, seemed that, perhaps, he was cooperating. There was a whole question about to what extent does a former chief of staff have immunity, and it became clear that the Department of Justice actually does not believe a former chief of staff has the kind of full immunity that he was claiming. So I don't know the answer to that question."

She continued, "I think that what we saw, certainly in terms of his dealings with the committee, was that it looked to us like, perhaps, his own counsel was unaware that he actually had this massive communications on his personal cellphone. And, of course, when [his attorney] George Terwilliger committed to the committee that he would hand those over if they existed, and then it turned out that they, in fact, did exist. Once Meadows had turned those over to the committee, though, his refusal to come testify clearly was contemptuous. But it was not surprising that George Terwilliger did not want him to be in front of the committee, given the extent of the information that we had, and given the likely legal jeopardy that that would put him in."

Wallace asked, "Do you think that [DOJ special counsel] Jack Smith uses Meadows as a witness in Trump's trial?"

The former GOP lawmaker said, "I hate to predict, but I would say that Meadows clearly has very significant information. He was at Trump's side for so much of this. And we know that through other witnesses who did testify, people like [former Trump aide] Cassidy Hutchinson — people like [former Trump White House counsel] Pat Cipollone — people who came in front of the committee and testified truthfully. We know the role Meadows played, we know the role he played with Trump, so he has significant information."

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